Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: American Hostages Message-ID: <1224@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 15:11:43 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.1224 Posted: Wed Sep 4 15:11:43 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Sep-85 05:15:59 EDT References: <1042@ihlpg.UUCP> <185@pyuxii.UUCP> <11045@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin (DRXAL-RI) ) Organization: USAMC ALMSA, St. Louis, MO Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.politics:10822 net.flame:11817 In article <10250@ucbvax.ARPA> csanders@ucbvax.UUCP (Craig S. Anderson) writes: >The other type of challenge is the pre-emptive challenge. An attorney may >object to a juror without showing cause using this challenge, and the juror >is automatically excused. While an attorney may challenge for cause as much >as he/she wishes, the lawyer get only a certain amount of pre-emptive >challenges. The Supreme Court ruled that an attorney may not use the >pre-emptive challenge to systematically exclude blacks from the jury. > >Craig Anderson So how is it proven that the lawyer is using his/her pre-emptive challenges on this basis? Since cause need not be stated, how is the racial cause determined? Is there a concomitant requirement to state the cause for challenging any rejected juror, even if this was a pre-emtive challenge rejection? (That is, does the court record have to include what reasons the lawyer determined were the grounds for the pre-emptive challenge? [This means that the lawyers would *have* to state a reason even for pre-emptive challenges. Is this what this court decision means?] Couldn't the lawyer simply use income, or job, or "general demeanor" as his/her reason?) Will