Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxii.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxii!tw8023 From: tw8023@pyuxii.UUCP (T Wheeler) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <226@pyuxii.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 09:41:06 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxii.226 Posted: Fri Sep 6 09:41:06 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Sep-85 07:26:16 EDT References: <1392@uwmacc.UUCP> <7800411@inmet.UUCP>, <1178@ihlpg.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 80 Bill T., I hate to be the one to bring you the bad news, BUT, California and Oregon were both attacked by the Japanese during the beginning of WWII. Granted, the attacks were miniscule in comparison to everything else that happened, but the Japanese Navy did carry out minor harrasement raids along the coast. The ones that come to mind most clearly were the dropping of small hand-held anti-personnel bombs on the town square of one Oregon town. (Not sure which town so I will not stick foot in mouth and give wrong one.) Thirty years after the incident, the town held a rememberence and managed to locate the Japanese Naval flier who did the bomb dropping. He was invited to take part in the festivities. Fortunatly, noone was injured in the raid, so folks got along fine during the festivities. The second incident which comes to mind was extremely interesting in that it was more like the movie "1941". A Japanese sub managed to navigate the Columbia river all the way to Astoria where, on a quiet Sunday morning, a few months into the war, it surfaced just off the Navy pier, loaded its deck gun, and proceeded to try to hit the gas storage tanks on a hill just above the Navy installation. Sailors aboard a U S destroyer docked at the pier just stood and watched for the first two rounds as they thought it was one of their own just practicing. By the time the Japanese fired their third round, it had become apparent as to what was going on and a general alarm was sounded. Alas, they were too late. After the third shot (all three were misses) the sub buttoned up, turned around, and dove, never to be seen again up the Columbia. Needless to say that the mouth of the Columbia was well guarded after that incident. As far as California is concerned, there was some shelling from a submarine along the Santa Barbara area. In regards to the airplane which bombed the Oregon town, it was very small and was launched from a submarine. There was some type of watertight housing on the deck of the sub. The thing was bolted together and launched. I personaly saw this aircraft as it flew over my town at least ten or twelve times. The pilot never dropped anything in our area however. The plane would come in from the sea about dusk and circle over Aberdeen and Hoquiam, Washington for about 15 minutes, then return to the sub. Frantic calls to the nearest Army Air Corps base near Tacoma would bring down a flight of rickety training planes equipped with very rudimentery weapons to look for the sub. The problem was was that it took over an hour to get the Army down our way to look for the sub. By the time they got there, the pilot was sitting in the sub's wardroom sipping tea and telling his friends about how everyone was running to and fro on the ground when he passed over them. Japanese subs roamed up and down the west coast for most of 1942, sinking quite a few ships. A dozen or so were torpedoed off the Washington coast, but they were mostly part of what we called the Scandanavian Navy. These were small coastal steamers used to move lumber up and down the coast and usually captained by Norwegian or Swedish captains. Once the Japenese found out that putting a hole in one of these steamers did nothing more than dump a lot of wood into the water, they stopped trying to sink them. Mainly because, even with a hole in them, many would make it to port anyway. The scarriest thing the Japanese did was to send ballons over the Pacific ladened with both anti-personnel mines and incindiary devices. About a dozen people were injured when they found these things. They are still being found out in the forests of western Washington, Oregon, and B.C.. So, Bill, its not quite true that the Japanese never attacked the mainland. As for the Aleutians, there were people on those islands. There were fishing villages that were only partially inhabited (off-season). The Japanese put those people on their fishing boats and sent them back to the mainland. This was how we found out about the "invasion". It was quite awhile before we mounted a counter attack to find that the Japanese had skedaddled just hours before we came ashore. That is the main force had been taken off the islands. Just setting the record straight. T. C. Wheeler