Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!amdcad!linda From: linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Re: Islamic Mystics - The Sufi Message-ID: <3830@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 23:42:24 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.3830 Posted: Wed Sep 11 23:42:24 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Sep-85 11:30:25 EDT References: <542@scc.UUCP> <755@cvl.UUCP> <544@scc.UUCP> <785@cvl.UUCP> <1758@psuvax1.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AMDCAD, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.politics:10920 net.religion:7607 Summary: Islam's cultural history in India > > > > What I mean to say is that ALL religions have their weak points > > > > and strong points. But some religions are, on the whole, > > > > obviously better than others and, from the present day world events, > > > > it appears that Islam is certainly not one of them. > > > > Comments? > > > > murali. > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > Don Steiny writes: > > > > > > There are 500 million Muslims in the world. Many of them > > > are peaceful. I most certainly agree that it would be as foolish > > > to judge Islam by its most enlightened members as it is to > > > judge it by its least. In looking at the whole picture concerning Islam, we should look at its cultural contributions in India. Under the patronage of the Mughals in India, music was patronized, and much of North Indian music as we know it today developed during this period. Many of the greatest 20th century musicians, very spiritual and peaceful people without fanaticism or terrorism of any sort, are Muslims. These include Ali Akbar Khan, who directs a college in California, and the Dagar brothers. The younger of the older generation of Dagar brothers heads an ashram devoted to dhrupad singing, which is a beautiful and exacting old style of rendering the ragas. For many years the Moslem musicians lived in harmony with the Hindu musicians; often they sang texts which are quite clearly Hindu, and Hindu musicians often sing taranas, a genre of songs which is of Persian origin. I can't think of Islam without remembering this tradition. With regard to Hindu and Muslim musicians today, I have heard that some of the Hindus have been snobbish towards the Muslim musicians, and I hope that this is not true.