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From: cooper@steinmetz.UUCP (Clark Cooper)
Newsgroups: net.kids,net.legal,net.politics
Subject: Re: Re: corporal punishment in schools
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Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 14:27:53 EDT
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In article <1214@teddy.UUCP> from lkk@teddy.UUCP (L.K.Kolodney) writes:
> My mother teaches second grade in one of the nastier areas of the
> Bronx, in New York City.  She maintains order by letting the
> students know, in no uncertain terms, that she will be fair with
> them, but NOT TAKE ANY CRAP.  She has their respect, and
> never resorts to corporal punishment (which is illegal).

You left out the punch line - what exactly does she do if someone
tests the policy. In other words, "I WON'T TAKE ANY CRAP or else ...";
I'm asking, "or else what?".

With second graders, it may be that she can get away with just saying
something to that effect. In the experience of her pupils, it may be that
any adult that has talked like that beats (or spanks or does something else
unpleasant to) them when crossed. In this case, your mother may be
winning by protective coloration, (i.e. she looks like a poisonous
butterfly, so the kids treat her like a poisonous butterfly).

How much respect would she maintain though if someone broke her rules
and she did nothing?

I'm not saying that corporal punishment should be the "or else". I'm
asking you, what is your mother's "or else". I would bet that whatever
it is, it is immediately perceived by the kids as something unpleasant.
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