Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihuxb!mcal From: mcal@ihuxb.UUCP (Mike Clifford) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.politics Subject: Re: corporal punishment in schools Message-ID: <1151@ihuxb.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 08:37:38 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxb.1151 Posted: Thu Sep 12 08:37:38 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 04:16:08 EDT References: <2149T3B@psuvm> <378@scirtp.UUCP> <3836@amdcad.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.kids:1969 net.politics:10948 > In article <378@scirtp.UUCP>, ned@scirtp.UUCP (Ned Robie) writes: > > Anyone that spanks or paddles my kid in school or anywhere without > > my permission is going to incur my wrath, I don't care what the reason. > > One of my most difficult responsibilities as a parent is knowing when to > > inflict physical punishment upon my children. It is certainly a > > responsibility that I would never entrust to strangers or even our closest > > friends. > > -- Ned Robie > > I agree with you completely. Perhaps it may be effective to spank a > very young infant for doing something which might be physically dangerous, > like trying to chew on wires or touch a hot vent from a heater. > But when the children are older - I don't think spanking is the > most effective approach, and it is unnecessarily and gratuitously > violent. I am wondering what everyone means when they say "spank" or "spanking". There is the spanking where you hit your child (sounds terrible) a number of times to physically (and mentally, I suppose) hurt them and (I hope) the "spanker" means to communicate to the "spankee" that rules are to be obeyed and so on. I think alot of times the parent has blown his/her top and is taking it out on the child. There is also the spank where, after repeated (you decide on the number of repitions) attempts to tell/warn the child to NOT do something, the child receives one swat on the seat accompanied by a firm "NO!". That was ONE swat, on the seat (which is assumed to be covered by underwear and pants/shorts/dress... and in alot of cases a diaper), followed by a short talk to assure the child of your love for her/him. I think this is the only effective means of a spanking (the one swat). It is all that is necessary to inform the child that he/she blew it by not listening the first time, and the little talk afterward is essential, too. This is my opinion, what's yours? Mike Clifford