Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site uiucuxc Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!verdeyen From: verdeyen@uiucuxc.Uiuc.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Seatbelts for passengers (micro Message-ID: <100700001@uiucuxc> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 13:05:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucuxc.100700001 Posted: Sun Aug 25 13:05:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 02:00:59 EDT References: <160@gargoyle.UUCP> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:gargoyle.UUCP:-16000:uiucuxc:100700001:000:1902 Nf-From: uiucuxc.Uiuc.ARPA!verdeyen Aug 25 12:05:00 1985 Your point of view is interesting. I have never considered it from that viewpoint. I have one problem with your argument, if it really mattered to a person what other people thought of him, then that is his fault, and it is not government's responsibility to relieve him of that syndrome. For if government takes that responsibility, we could all be wearing uniforms in a few years. Clothing certainly reflects a person's personality, and someone might be afraid people would consider him "wimpy" if he wore the wrong color of shoes. My biggest problem, however, with the seatbelt law is the reason why it was passed. Here, in Illinois, there were no significant groups lobbying for the law with public safety in mind. The main lobby groups were affiliated with car maufacturers whose sole interest was economic. (If enough states pass such seatbelt laws, auto makers won't have to install airbags in their new line of cars; a costly operation.) So my gripe is this: who exactly is the government? In regard to the seatbelt law, the people of Illinois sure weren't. One of the 'representatives' was quoted as saying, 'I've had a lot of negative response to the proposed law, but I'm not going to let that change my mind'... and she is "representing" her constituents??????? At any rate, the precedent has been set in Illinois. Big business has stepped into government to protect its economic interest. That isn't a democracy, that's a corporation. If big business is allowed to step in the legislative process on a whim, what's next? A law that requires participation in a physical fitness program would benefit those in that industry, and it sure would make America healthy. So the next time the governor signs a bill, and passes it off on the pretense that he's doing it for the good of the public, you can bet it won't be a ban on alcohol or tobacco. Mike Verdeyen