Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!josh From: josh@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (J Storrs Hall) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory,net.legal Subject: Re: Seatbelts for passengers (micromotives & macrobehavior) Message-ID: <3426@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 20:28:12 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.3426 Posted: Mon Aug 26 20:28:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Aug-85 20:30:29 EDT References: <535@brl-tgr.ARPA> <987@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <160@gargoyle.UUCP> Reply-To: josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.politics.theory:987 net.legal:2181 In article <160@gargoyle.UUCP> carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) writes: > ... A law >can help change a collective behavior pattern in which all the >individual agents act rationally, yet the total result is far from >optimal. ... Such patterns are common in interactions among people (they are >often called Prisoner's Dilemma or Free Rider situations), and in >general, individual rationality does not lead to a collectively >optimal situation. The free market is a special case: the market >"works" (in the sense it may be said to work) because each agent >enters the marketplace *voluntarily*. But this is not the general >case with social interactions. >Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes Richard is teetering dangerously close to a valuable insight. Namely, that there are some systems in which the rational behavior of all the participants "sums" to the good of all (as in the market) but that many systems work the opposite way. In particular, political systems work the opposite way: it is impossible for everybody to get rich by stealing from everybody else. --JoSH