Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cxsea.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!cxsea!doc From: doc@cxsea.UUCP (Documentation ) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: How governments might be kept from economic intervention Message-ID: <311@cxsea.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Aug-85 19:14:17 EDT Article-I.D.: cxsea.311 Posted: Wed Aug 28 19:14:17 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 06:32:32 EDT References: <9563@ucbvax.ARPA> <1106@umcp-cs.UUCP> <10166@ucbvax.ARPA> <245@pedsgd.UUCP> <10203@ucbvax.ARPA> Organization: Computer X Inc., Seattle, Washington. Lines: 23 > of our lives. To limit the power of government in the economy, I'd > suggest a constitutional amendment outlining property rights. > > After all, property rights are often difficult to define. But it's > a starting point, and the existence and defense of other "fundamental > rights" in the U.S. leads me to think that it would work. > Hmmm, I guess I don't see what you would achieve this way. You already have some measure of protection of your property (due process, etc.). The problem I see is that "property" is not so easy to define. In this post-environmental action society, courts now recognize a species of "property" in one's right to breath clean air, for instance. If your property consists of a factory up the road which pumps dirt into the air, and I want to have you closed as a common-law nuisance, our various "property" rights are in conflict. This is the sort of market-failure phenomenon that modern zoning and land-use law is founded on. Whatever wonders of progress libertaria offers, I think I'd still like to see stiff land-use regs enforced, even though they may seem to burden those precious rights to "property". Zoning is still cheaper (or more efficient, if you will), than litigation for nuisance abatement. --Joel Gilman @Motorola/Computer X, Inc., Seattle