Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site psuvax1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cadre!psuvax1!berman From: berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: How governments might be kept from economic intervention Message-ID: <1757@psuvax1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax1.1757 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Sep-85 09:44:06 EDT References: <9563@ucbvax.ARPA> <1106@umcp-cs.UUCP> <10166@ucbvax.ARPA> <245@pedsgd.UUCP> <10203@ucbvax.ARPA> <1724@psuvax1.UUCP> <3462@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 41 > In article <1724@psuvax1.UUCP> berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) writes: > >Imagine the following. The Supreme Court actually defines property as > >the fundamental right. Can you elaborate, what laws would be deleted? > >Would any taxes (income, property, sales, per capita) remain legal? > >Zoning regulations? Eminent domain? > >... > >Piotr Berman > > There are two modifications in interpretation which, if taken > together, would do an awful lot of good. They are (a) the "general > welfare" clause, which is part of the taxing power (Article I, Section > 8, para. 1), is currently interpreted to mean that taxes may be used > to do anything which does anybody any good. This could be > reinterpreted to mean, that no taxes could be levied except to do > something which benefitted EVERYBODY; ie, special interests need not > apply. (b) Economic due process: in Amendment 5, "No person shall ... > be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law" > Interpret this to mean that a law which restricts someone's use of > something he owns, is depriving him of some of its value, and that the > need for such a law must be considerably more compelling before it > is allowed. > > The interesting thing to note is that BOTH these interpretations I > advocate were once held by the Supreme Court. (a) was soon swept > away by a confluence of powerful political and commercial special > interests in the early 1800's; (b) held up until the 1930's and > the New Deal. > > --JoSH Two remarks. There are three interpretations of benefitting EVERYBODY. A narrow one: if one person claims that something is not benefiting him, then this thing is not benefiting everybody. A broad one: if one one show direct or INDIRECT benefits for everybody. Yet broader: if one can show direct, indirect and POTENTIAL benefits for everybody. I can personally leave with the third interpretation, JoSH prefers presumably something between first and the second. Secondly, the due process of law is also subject of interpretation.