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From: dlo@drutx.UUCP (OlsonDL)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Re: Newsflash! [Subsidized Education]
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Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 17:14:46 EDT
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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
>In article <3461@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>> josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) writes:
>> This is really senseless.  Forcing someone to do something at the
>> point of a gun, which would be compassionate if done voluntarily,
>> is humanizing neither to the forcer or the forcee.  Loading a
>> monster bureaucracy with millions (literally) of regulations
>> onto people does not make them better, more caring human beings;
>> it makes them jobholders, warmbodies, interchangeable cogs in 
>> a soulless machine.  Show me a humanizing State and I'll show you 
>> a square circle.
>
>It makes them fed, healthy, housed jobholders who can provide the soul
>of the machine they create.  But I suppose Josh thinks it better that they
>starve, sicken, freeze, and sit impotent and idle to develop qualities that
>Josh certainly hasn't, if he wishes that fate upon them.  Show me a
>libertarian state, and I'll show you economic feudalism, where Josh and
>his ilk think they can get into the middle and upper levels.

A problem that Mike and his ilk have is that they believe that there is a
free lunch.  But, there is no magic pool from which people can draw some
share of wealth no matter how badly it is needed.

A 19th century French economist by the name of Frederic Bastiat defined the
State as "that fiction by which people believe they can live at someone else's
expense".  The State is not the source of prosperity, because it cannot
generate wealth.  It can only distribute poverty, because it can only consume
the wealth that people must produce themselves.  *All* the goodies that the
State "provides" are those that, but for people expending their own blood,
sweat, and tears, would not even exist.

>Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh

These opinions belong to anyone who wants to claim them.

David Olson
..!ihnp4!drutx!dlo

"To laugh at men of sense is the privilege of fools". -- Jean de la Bruyere