Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!drockwel@CSNET-SH.ARPA From: drockwel@CSNET-SH.ARPA (Dennis Rockwell) Newsgroups: net.railroad Subject: Re: Philly-Pittsburgh train Message-ID: <1153@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Sun, 1-Sep-85 19:43:42 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.1153 Posted: Sun Sep 1 19:43:42 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Sep-85 01:33:59 EDT Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 32 Regarding the thoughts about using maglev between Philly and Pittsburgh, why not just (big word, "just") upgrade the current right-of-way to the standards now in effect for the Northeast Corridor (now AMTRAK owned and maintained) and thus have off-the-shelf 110+ MPH service that doesn't use incompatible (and unproven in hard usage) track and rolling stock? This option must be cheaper than making a whole new right-of-way through some pretty pricey real estate. Installation and maintenance (always something to beware of these days, being the first thing ignored when profits aren't high enough) of a conventional catenary system *must* be cheaper than maglev. The Pennsy "Main Line" is already electrified (albeit not up the Corridor standards) as far as Harrisburg; that's about 1/3 of the distance (am I close?). Forcing NY-Pittsburgh riders to change trains at Philly (or Harrisburg) doesn't seem like an attractive proposition. Moving a cut of coaches from one locomotive to another at Philly seems much more reasonable. I do realize the the maglev promises higher speeds than conventional rail will (probably) ever attain. It's also true that the Pennsy could and often did deliver roughly equivalent service to that which AMTRAK now provides in the Corridor and out to Harrisburg 40 years ago using GG1s on the point. Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea of maglev; however, the economy is very variable, and a system that can use already field-proven that we know how to maintain (and already have the facilities and expertise to do so!) appears to be a sounder economic decision. We don't want another expensive botch like the Concorde, do we? Dennis Rockwell Electric Locomotive Fan (esp. the GG1 and AEM7) That ought to start up some discussion!