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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: "Secular Humanism" banned in the US Schools.
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Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 20:37:01 EDT
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>>Don't you know?  Teaching you to use logical reasoning instead of taking
>>things on faith?  Learning the scientific method of objective analysis?
>>Why, all of that is SECULAR HUMANISM!!!!!  Because it leads you to conclusions
>>that contradict religious thinking.  Thus, religionists feel it should be
>>banned, to prevent people from thinking about such things.  Isn't that clear?

>     No, it isn't clear.  What I learn in school is using logical reasoning,
> scientific method, etc.  I do *not* learn "Secular Humanism".  The claim that
> "all of that is SECULAR HUMANISM" is absurd!  Secular Humanists can claim that
> their faith is based on the preceding items, however they should *not* claim
> that the preceding items are part of Secular Humanism, like Ragnarok is part
> of historical Norse religion.  As far as I am concerned, Secular Humanists are
> just another religious group.  I do not use logical reasoning and the scien-
> tific method because my religion tells me too, I use them due to *personal*
> preference.  [DAVE LONG]

So do secular humanists.  Only certain people choose to deem *that* a religious
preference.  The fact remains that those seeking to eliminate secular
humanism from schools are actually seeking to eliminate the reaching of
conclusions that they don't like achieved through the reasoning processes
described above.  Logically speaking, the only way to avoid reaching those
conclusions is not to teach the methods that get you there.

Or maybe logic doesn't apply here.  After all, look who's seeking the
elimination.  Perhaps they want to allow teaching of rational thinking
processes but forbid the children from reaching the "undesired" conclusions.
-- 
Popular consensus says that reality is based on popular consensus.
						Rich Rosen   pyuxd!rlr