Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Julie Harazduk and the Trinity Message-ID: <1602@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Aug-85 12:38:46 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1602 Posted: Tue Aug 27 12:38:46 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Aug-85 09:02:42 EDT References: <3770001@csd2.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 32 > Normally, I do not reply to this type of article but Julie Harazduk > has claimed to be Jewish. Generally, I consider the Jewishness of > Ashkenazim suspect unless they are acting in a recognizably Jewish way > by Sefardi standards. Most of what most Ashkenazim consider > Jewishness is basically some barbaric customs picked up from German > and Slavic peasants over the past couple of centuries. Also many of > the ideas which Ashkenazim consider Jewish religious ideas in fact > come from Christianity. [MARTILLO] If I were to say to Martillo that the Jewishness of Sefardim is questionable at best because what Sefardim consider Jewishness is basically some barbaric set of customs picked up in a variety of countries over the last couple of centuries, and that I would not refer to his actionsas "Jewish" unless he was acting in a recognizably Jewish way by Ashkenazic standards, he would probably call me a name like "vusvus". This man does not represent even his own sect of Jewish belief. Basically, he makes some radical fundamentalist Christians sound almost human by comparison. What gave him the idea that his version of "Judaism" is the correct one while all others are "suspect" is beyond me. He claims that it is Ashkenazim whose ideas come from Christianity, but clearly his self-centered intolerance and belief that his way represents what Judaism "is" sounds like it came right out of the Spanish Inquisition, or the Crusades. It makes me wonder if people like Paul Zimmerman are right when I read people like Martillo. He lets me know that intolerance and bigotry and hate are not isolated to one particular religion. Not by a long shot. -- "I was walking down the street. A man came up to me and asked me what was the capital of Bolivia. I hesitated. Three sailors jumped me. The next thing I knew I was making chicken salad." "I don't believe that for a minute. Everyone knows the capital of Bolivia is La Paz." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr