Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-k.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-k!tim From: tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: re: The true God lives in the real world Message-ID: <515@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> Date: Wed, 28-Aug-85 20:35:19 EDT Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-k.515 Posted: Wed Aug 28 20:35:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 07:32:13 EDT References: <314@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, Networking Lines: 23 Without commenting on the merit or lack thereof of Paul Zimmerman's belief system, I would like to point out that he is misrepresenting my position in the essay "Even If I Did Believe". I did not therein conclude that the God described does not exist, and I do not know where Mr. Zimmerman got the idea that I had. The thesis of the essay was that =if= the God described by fundamentalists exists, it would not be deserving of worship. The essay did not deal at all with the issue of existence or non-existence of this God, only with the appropriateness of worshipping such an entity. In fact, I do not believe in such a being, because a simple application of skeptical thought to the issue makes it clear that such an extraordinary claim as the existence of an omnipotent, sentient, universe-creating entity requires extraordinary proof. But this was not touched upon in "Even If I Did Believe", in which the question was explicitly left open. I'd also like to add that the willingness of many posters to believe what they want to believe regardless of evidence and experience is amazing. I am referring not to Paul, but to such loony tunes as Arndt and Dyer. Wishful thinking reigns, and these people seem to think it is some kind of virtue. -=- Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University, Networking ARPA: Tim.Maroney@CMU-CS-K uucp: seismo!cmu-cs-k!tim CompuServe: 74176,1360 audio: shout "Hey, Tim!"