Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1m.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihu1m!jho From: jho@ihu1m.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.origins,net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Coming to know God (or is God evil?) Message-ID: <651@ihu1m.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Aug-85 21:42:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1m.651 Posted: Thu Aug 29 21:42:36 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 08:07:15 EDT References: <8508172148.AA02946@sdcc6.ARPA> <308@pyuxn.UUCP> <2195@sdcc6.UUCP> <316@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 26 Xref: watmath net.origins:2261 net.religion:7508 net.religion.christian:1183 In recent postings, Paul Zimmerman charged that the god of the bible is an evil god. I agree that if such a deity exits and the stories of the bible are to be taken at their face value then that god can be viewed as an evil god. Tim Maroney in his famous article titled, "Even If I Did Believe", clearly demonstrated this darker side of the biblical god. While Paul eloquently describes his point of view, it is clear that he is guilty of the same presumption as the religionists' side. Namely, he presupposes that god exists without providing us with a shred of evidence that there is a god. The observation that there is destruction and evil in our world is not a proof for the existence of an evil god. I think that it is impossible to prove that Jehovah, Zeus, Odin or Ubizmo do not exist. Yet, evidence is lacking to support the notion that any of the above deities or other creatures of the imagination exist. It seems more likely that men created gods then gods created men. The question is why men would create an evil god? I will offer the following conjecture: Men created an evil god because they were evil men. By inventing a god, these men could scare and dominate others. They could also justify their evil deeds, since they would claim that their actions are supported by their god. Finally, as time elapsed, the god creation event had been forgotten. -- Yosi Hoshen, AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois, Mail: ihnp4!ihu1m!jho