Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!pez From: pez@pyuxn.UUCP (Paul Zimmerman) Newsgroups: net.origins,net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Mike Huybensz's rebuttal to Dan Boscovich Message-ID: <325@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 08:40:30 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.325 Posted: Thu Sep 5 08:40:30 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Sep-85 05:30:22 EDT References: <304@pyuxn.UUCP> <2137CJC@psuvm> <397@scgvaxd.UUCP> <720@cybvax0.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Piscataway, N.J. Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.origins:2300 net.religion:7536 net.religion.christian:1216 Mike, All I can say is how impressed I am with your bravery in speaking out about the Damager-God to people like Dan Boscovich. You are absolutely right, he sounds like a willing sheep slave in a fascist dictatorship who has been too brainwashed to know the difference between good and evil. I feel truly sorry for him, but I hope some light can be shed on things as a result of an open discussion between Dan, myself, you, and others who have opinions on the nature of this Damager-God and His actions. Dan did not provide a very interesting rebuttal to cjc@psuvm.BITNET's points about how God hardened Pharaoh's heart. He avoids the issue of God's deliberate malicious interference entirely as if it was inconsequential. He mentions the ``lesson Job learned in the end,'' but the only lesson I can see in that book is God saying ``Obey me for I am powerful, and I can do whatever I want to you whether you obey or not.'' Since Dan assumes certain things about the nature of God, he learns a different lesson. You are right, Mike, responsibility for the crimes of the ages rest at the feet of the Damager-God. But people like Dan will never see fit to rest it there because they have been so well enslaved by the pig God. I really am truly sorry for people like him, and I do hope I can help them overcome their sheepishness toward God and realize what He is really like. Once they come to see Him for what He is, I am as sure that they will stop whorshiping Him as they are sure that once you get into their web of faith you will accept God and become His slave. Be well, -- Paul Zimmerman - AT&T Bell Laboratories pyuxn!pez