Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!pez From: pez@pyuxn.UUCP (Paul Zimmerman) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: How come God doesn't affect Dave? Message-ID: <326@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 08:42:12 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.326 Posted: Thu Sep 5 08:42:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Sep-85 05:30:57 EDT References: <305@pyuxn.UUCP> <630@ihu1m.UUCP> <309@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Piscataway, N.J. Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.religion:7537 net.religion.christian:1217 Dave, Your analysis that I must have some irrational fear of death is as naive as you speculated it might be. I don't think that a person who engages in activities like skydiving could be said to have an irrational fear of death. I recognize that I am going to die someday. But I also recognize that while I continue to live there is an evil pig monster Damager-God who enjoys harming people and making mincemeat of out efforts to build and create. When I go skydiving, I do so realizing that God could do me harm at any moment. Why do I do it? Because by beating Him at His own game, by taking the necessary precautions and the extra care to watch out for His meddling interference, I gain a modicum of pride and satisfaction in showing the Damager-God that He is not so all powerful as He would like His sheep to believe. I don't mean to call you a liar, Dave, but no one has lived a life of sufficient length and not experienced tragedy or suffering. When you say that no such things have ever befallen you, I have to question your claim that you've had ``a really great time for most all of [your] life.'' I must admit I admire the way you speak in defiance of Him, as if daring Him to slit your throat as you speak. I hope you realize that for Him to do something horrible to someone who speaks out vocally against Him may be seen as proof of His evil, even to the most sheepish of His followers. For this reason, I believe He will purposely not do this sort of thing, thus not only preventing this sort of defection but also appearing to discredit people who speak out against Him in the process. I find it upsetting that so many people like Dan Boscovich and now Dave Trissel must find some ``flaw'' in my character or personality to account for my beliefs about God. No one has made claims about character flaws in them or in other God whorshipers resulting in their beliefs. In my heart, I know it is the work of the evil God damaging their minds that causes this sort of thing. I hope we are able to get past that damage and find the kernel of solid mind through which we will all share in a world without the Damager-God. Be well, -- Paul Zimmerman - AT&T Bell Laboratories pyuxn!pez