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From: jho@ihu1m.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
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Subject: Re: Yosi Hoshen on evil men as creators of the evil god
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Paul Zimmerman:
> that simply fall apart from what gets referred to as natural decay.
> Now, I ask you, which is sillier? Believing that this natural decay
> simply exists as a unique unbalanced force given the name ``entropy,''
> or believing that this decay is the deliberate action of a malicious
> force, an evil deity, a Damager-God?                               

I think it is very difficult to measure silliness, but it is quite
clear that your view of nature is very silly.  I admire your ability
to express yourself, yet, it is clear that you do not have a scientific
understanding.   Science can explain entropy and decay very well.  There
is nothing mysterious about them, they fit very well within the framework
of the natural laws.  You may say that god is responsible for the 
laws of nature.  But then we could ask ourselves who is responsible for
the "existence" of god.  It is unlikely that we could understand why 
the natural laws are the way they are.  Adding the god axiom does 
not solve this problem.

> the reasons I give above. This is even documented in the Bible, with
> many examples already offered (the Tower of Babel, the hardening of
> Pharaoh's heart, the entire Book of Job), so we know we are both
> talking about the same God. 
How can we take the fairy tails of Genesis as facts.  You said
that god is a liar, so by your standards how can we trust the
word of the bible.
-- 
Yosi Hoshen, AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois,  Mail: ihnp4!ihu1m!jho