Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site philabs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!mcnc!philabs!jah From: jah@philabs.UUCP (Julie Harazduk) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trinity: the fine line Message-ID: <439@philabs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 12:13:47 EDT Article-I.D.: philabs.439 Posted: Thu Sep 5 12:13:47 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Sep-85 04:27:28 EDT References: <603@usl.UUCP> <3015@topaz.ARPA> <97@unc.unc.UUCP> <411@philabs.UUCP> <253@steinmetz.UUCP> Organization: Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 32 > > Julie A Harazduk > > Maybe the term monotheism is too limiting to describe the truth contained. > > This is true of the term Trinity. Maybe that's why its not used in the > > Bible to explain God. God has one will, one plan, and one mind. The > > Bible says, "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One." Where the > > word for God (Elohim) is plural indicating more than one in some sense,yet > > One. And the word for "One" here, (I forget offhand) suggests a unity or > > oneness as in one mind, one heart, one purpose, one plan...united. > > Sorry. The word for God in the She'ma (your quote from the Torah) is > Elohaynu (is the software installed yet that will allow us to input Hebrew > letters?). Singular. Not "more than one in some sense," but One, without > any qualifiers. > > As a side issue: Should Jews allowed to read net.religion.christian? > > harold a. stern 410 memorial drive The quote in question reads "Shma Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu, Adonai Echad." It was my original mistake and I apologize for the misinformation. However, I do believe that the word "Adonai" is the word for "Lord" and this word is plural. The word "Elohenu" following the plural "Adonai" just supports the notion that He ("The Lord") is more than one person, yet one is our God. "God" is one, there is no denying that, for He said it. But as the trinity implies, He has revealed Himself to us in the three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And all the evidence of this can be found in the Old Testament prophecies. This is my original point. Julie A. Harazduk p.s I'd like to acknowledge Paul Shindman for bringing the mistake to my attention in a personal response.