Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site well.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!well!jay From: jay@well.UUCP (Jay Kinney) Newsgroups: net.origins,net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Dan Boscovich steps forward to talk about God Message-ID: <184@well.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Sep-85 03:47:22 EDT Article-I.D.: well.184 Posted: Fri Sep 13 03:47:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Sep-85 08:11:17 EDT References: <8508172148.AA02946@sdcc6.ARPA> <308@pyuxn.UUCP> <2195@sdcc6.UUCP> <324@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 25 Xref: watmath net.origins:2356 net.religion:7631 net.religion.christian:1291 Summary: Re the Damager-God discussion I don't know about anyone else, but I've been greatly enjoying this Damager-God discussion and have found it quite stimulating. I don't think that anyone has mentioned that Paul Zimmerman's concepts closely match the ancient gnostic concept of God as a Demiurge who *thinks* he is the Big Cheese, but is actually just a Creator-god somewhat down on the Totem-pole. The gnostics posited an Unknown God far beyond the realm of Good & Evil who oversaw the whole mess and to which one could make contact--once one saw thru the Demiurge. These ideas are also part of the later thinking of SF author Philip K. Dick (see his novel VALIS, for instance). If anyone is interested, the first issue of a new magazine called GNOSIS: A Journal of the Western Inner Traditions is just now (finally) coming out with the initial issue's theme on "Gnosticism--Ancient and Modern". Material includes articles on gnostic cosmologies, plus previously unpublished material from PKDick's journals. Subscriptions are $15 for 4 issues (Single copies postpaid are $5 for #1) Checks or Money-orders in U.S. funds to: The Lumen Foundation P.O. Box 14217, San Francisco, CA 94114 USA Please forgive the plug, but it seemed particularly germane to the discussion... Cheers, Jay Kinney !hplabs!well!jay