Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Proof of Outlandish Propositions Message-ID: <1591@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 16:52:33 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1591 Posted: Sun Aug 25 16:52:33 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Aug-85 21:48:50 EDT References: <293@mit-athena.UUCP> <3780071@csd2.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 27 > Rosen believes in science but not in God. [MARTILLO] "Believes in science"? In the same sense that you believe in god? Or "believes that the methods of science provide the best (and often the only) means of acquiring solid knowledge". > My claim is that modern science rests on certain beliefs for which > there is no logical basis and which must be taken on faith. Which you use every day, especially when typing your words onto a keyboard and believing that when you strike the 'h' key, an 'h' will appear, and believing that when you edit a file or send an article or drive a car, the appropriate thing (as understood by scientific inquiry). > Without these assumptions, there is no modern science. Modern science > works well, but that does not prove these assumptions but rather shows > they are good axioms. I am perfectly reasonable to take the efficacy > of these axioms as possible evidence for the existence of a divinity > stabilizing the universe in some sense. It is only possible evidence in any reasonable sense if you have assumed your conclusion. -- "to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human being can fight and never stop fighting." - e. e. cummings Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr