Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site erc3ba.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxf!mhuxi!erc3ba!gth From: gth@erc3ba.UUCP (A.Y.Feldblum) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: % of "Non-Religious" Jews and Brass Tacks Message-ID: <153@erc3ba.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Aug-85 08:44:59 EDT Article-I.D.: erc3ba.153 Posted: Thu Aug 29 08:44:59 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 05:23:06 EDT References: <549@bu-cs.UUCP> <3434@garfield.UUCP> <7@unc.unc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Engineering Research Center Princeton, NJ Lines: 31 > In article <3434@garfield.UUCP> lionel@garfield.UUCP (Lionel H. Moser) writes: > > > >For example, Passover is a traditional occasion for the extended family > >to get together. It is also the one religious service I can enjoy for > >its own sake. I wouldn't get off on thanking the lord for killing > >the first-born children of Egyptians, but celebrating Freedom is not > >such a bad idea. > > Permit me to correct just one misconception. Nowhere in the Passover Seder > do we thank the Lord for killing first-born Egyptions. We thank him for > having spared our own first born sons, but not for taking the Egyptions'. > We thank Him for delivering us from the Pharoahs soldiers, but not for > drowning them in the Red Sea. In fact, the text of the Seder reminds us > of G*d's sadness over the deaths of the Egyption soldiers, and reminds us > not to celebrate their deaths, since the Egyptians are G*d's children, > just as we are. > > Frank Silbermann In addition, we do not recite the full Hallel - the Psalms of Praise, that are said on the other holidays, on Pesach except for the first day. The reason I remember is that we do not say a full praise over an event (the splitting of the Reed Sea) that included the killing of many of G*d's children. The punishment of the Egyptians may have been just, but nowhere within Judaism do I see celebration over the destruction of people. Avi Feldblum AT&T Tech - ERC uucp: {allegra, ihnp4}!pruxa!ayf or !pruxc!ayf