Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1m.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihu1m!jho From: jho@ihu1m.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Message to non-ultraorthodox Jews re: fundraising Message-ID: <654@ihu1m.UUCP> Date: Sat, 31-Aug-85 01:16:12 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1m.654 Posted: Sat Aug 31 01:16:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Sep-85 07:06:02 EDT References: <417@mhuxm.UUCP> <468@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 35 From Michael L. Schneider: > In Israel, religious law governs segments of daily life. The failure to accept > Rabbis that do not follow the stated law at the very least further divides > the Jewish people. It should be noted that the problem areas are those that > effect not the people involved, but their offspring. Thus, Israel has chosen > the Law of Torah as the religious law for Jews. What right do the orthodox religionist have to determine the future of non-orthodox offsprings? > We have discussed in length on the net the problems that can occur when > incorrect (or non existent) divorces occur or when conversions are not > conducted correctly. If civil marriage was available in Israel, there would not be problems with marriage and divorce because of religious prohibitions. The religionists would say that they could not marry those Jews who did not get divorce according to the halacha. My answer to this is; it is the religionist problem. > Now, we are being asked not to give to an organization > which helps Jews in need only because they wish to keep the Jewish people > unified, not divided. The imposition of religion coercion laws by the religionists divides the country rather than unites it. Many Israelis are sick and tired of the religionists' attempts to shove religion down their throats. The resistance to religious coercion is especially strong among the more educated Israelis who form the technological and scientific backbone of the country. A significant number of those people has left the country. There are many factors for this emigration, religious coercion is one of them. -- Yosi Hoshen, AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois, Mail: ihnp4!ihu1m!jho