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From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (J. Abeles (Bellcore, Murray Hill, NJ))
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Subject: Re: Message to non-ultraorthodox Jews re: fundraising
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I had some problems understanding a recent posting:

> The orthodox, in your opinion, may not have the right to tell you what to do.
> BUT, if your offspring become orthodox, your actions would effect them...  
                                                             ^^^^^^
Let me see:  if I understand this correctly, it means that Yosi Hoshen would
bear the same children again after having raised them and after they became 
orthodox?

>             However in all cases, the vast majority follow Jewish law in those
> areas that will effect offspring... 
                  ^^^^^^
Hmmm.  I guess what he's saying is that "the vast majority" follow Jewish
law in matters involving sexual intercourse.  Does anyone have any figures
to back this up?

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But seriously, can anyone deny that it is the existence of a group of
people who believe in the power of Jewish law that creates the problems
which Michael Schneider is talking about?  Therefore, the problem of
the imposition of religious standards on couples and their offspring would
vanish if these people, or at least these beliefs, would vanish.  Quod
erat demonstratum:  it is a problem caused by Judaism, not by those who
wish to ignore some arcane belief structure called Halacha.

--Joe Abeles