Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uwvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!uwvax!David Parter From: david@wisc-rsch.arpa (David Parter) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Message to non-ultraorthodox Jews re: fundraising Message-ID: <287@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 16:26:02 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.287 Posted: Fri Sep 6 16:26:02 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Sep-85 20:45:18 EDT References: <474@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <417@mhuxm.UUCP> <468@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <654@ihu1m.UUCP> Sender: david@uwvax.UUCP Organization: UWisc Systems Lab Lines: 33 it was asked: > > What right do the orthodox religionist have to determine the future > > of non-orthodox offsprings? Michael L. Schneider replies: > The orthodox, in your opinion, may not have the right to tell you what to do. > BUT, if your offspring become orthodox, your actions would effect them. Your > offspring would choose to live by the law of the Torah; yet, by your actions > it is highly possible that their lives could be limited. In determining > your lifestyle, you have apriori limited your offspring's WITHOUT THEIR > CONSENT. i will make many decisions which will affect my offspring without their consent. Sorry. This is what happens to parents. You have no right to tell me what to do because it might limit my children's ability to do what YOU want them to do. In fact, if I told the orthodox that they were ruining their childrens' future chances of becoming tolerant reasonable human beings, they would be insulted and tell me to go to hell. Well, if they tell me how to raise my (future) children, I will (and do) tell them to go to hell. Orthodox judasim is valid. But it has no special rights to impose upon others. david -- david parter UWisc Systems Lab uucp: ...!{allegra,harvard,ihnp4,seismo, topaz}!uwvax!david arpa now: david@wisc-rsch.arpa arpa soon: david@wisc-rsch.WISCONSIN.EDU or something like that