Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site sesame.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!sesame!slerner From: slerner@sesame.UUCP (Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Message to non-ultraorthodox Jews re: fundraising Message-ID: <331@sesame.UUCP> Date: Sun, 8-Sep-85 15:48:24 EDT Article-I.D.: sesame.331 Posted: Sun Sep 8 15:48:24 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Sep-85 08:15:35 EDT References: <417@mhuxm.UUCP> <468@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <654@ihu1m.UUCP> <474@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <426@mhuxm.UUCP> Organization: Lotus Development Corp Lines: 33 > I had some problems understanding a recent posting: > > > The orthodox, in your opinion, may not have the right to tell you what to do. > > BUT, if your offspring become orthodox, your actions would effect them... > ^^^^^^ What is refered to here is mamzeirus. If a person is divorced outside of jewish law, and then remarries, the children of the second marriage are mamzers. If these children (or their decendents) decide to become frum, they are limited to marrying only other mamzeirim. This problem arises here in the US, and is often heartbreaking as a persons status is often not discovered until they are engaged to someone who they can not marry. (BTW: this emphasizes the importance of investigating someones yichus (geneology) before getting engaged.) A similar problem arrises from one who is decended from an improperly converted 'jew'. While able to convert, they are ineligable to marry a cohein. The previous discussion of actions of parents having a (possible) negative affect on their offspring should now be clearer. -- Opinions expressed are public domain, and do not belong to Lotus Development Corp. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner {genrad|ihnp4|ima}!wjh12!talcott!sesame!slerner {cbosgd|harvard}!talcott!sesame!slerner slerner%sesame@harvard.ARPA