Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site unc.unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!fsks From: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Is Martillo a Typical Sefardim? Message-ID: <62@unc.unc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 11:31:00 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.62 Posted: Wed Sep 11 11:31:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Sep-85 11:23:03 EDT References: <11290@rochester.UUCP> <3780083@csd2.UUCP> Reply-To: fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) Organization: CS Dept, U. of N. Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 20 Summary: In article <3780083@csd2.UUCP> martillo@csd2.UUCP (Joachim Martillo) writes: > >>(4) Ashkenazik Jews are responsible for all assimilation >> and assimilation is entirely an Ashkenazik problem. > >While there has been Sefardic assimilation in the past and the present >time, the vast majority of such problems among the Sefardic community >nowadays can be traced to Ashkenazi interference in Sefardi >communities since the middle 19th century. Don't forget that the first American Jewish group to assimilate and (for the most part) disappear, was the first wave of immigration to arrive. These were Sephardim. The Sephardi Jews in Holland two or three hundred years ago were more assimilated than the Askenazim to the east during those years. I hypothesize that the level of assimilation is not so much a measure of the quality of the Talmud interpretations as it is influenced by the attitude of the surrounding gentile community. Frank Silbermann