Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!cord!pierce!bentley!edsel!packard!topaz!KFL From: KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Matter Transmission Message-ID: <3543@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 21:52:29 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.3543 Posted: Thu Sep 5 21:52:29 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Sep-85 06:13:16 EDT Sender: daemon@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 60 From: Keith F. Lynch From: graffiti!peter@topaz.rutgers.edu (Peter da Silva) Subject: Matter Transmission Date: 31 Aug 85 16:17:55 GMT ... What would this do to manufacturing processes? I imagine we would have the same sort of confusion and piracy that now exists in the software field, where transmission and duplication are already commonplace. In George Smith's _Venus Equilateral_ (1942) the main problem caused by the invention of a matter transmitter and duplicator is what to use for money. The solution in the book was to invent a material that could not be duplicated or transmitted. I think a more likely solution would be to go to a pure credit economy. We are fairly close to one already. Note that in a pure service economy, matter duplication does not really change much! If such a thing were invented today, it would change civilization much less than if it were invented 40 years ago. The main effects would be a rapid colonization of space and an end to poverty. ... Friends of the Earth or the Audubon Society (don't worry about the whooping cranes, they're all on file). Not so far fetched. A creature is completely specified by its genetic code. Several years ago I saw the complete genetic code for some virus printed in a magazine. As long as a copy of that magazine exists, that virus will never really become extinct. I hope that as soon as someone completely analyzes the smallpox virus (which now exists only in a few labs) that all smallpox viruses will be destroyed. A person's genetic code would fit on one or two RA81 disks. James Hogan's idea (in _Voyage from Yesteryear_ (1982)) that unborn people may travel to the stars in the form of data on a computer may be workable. An equally fascinating idea is that it may be possible to recover enough fragments of DNA from fossils to reconstruct extinct creatures, such as dinosaurs (see _Re-entry_ by Paul Preuss (1981)). Postultimate thought: if you put yourself on file could you ever truly die? Sure. If all the copies get wiped out. Just as books, music, and computer data can become irretrievably lost. The more copies, and in the more places, the better. Keep one in another solar system (it's called supernova insurance). And whatever else happens, if it is true that the universe will ultimately contract to a single ultra-dense ultra-hot point, it seems very unlikely that any information could survive, even if there is an 'after'. Other cosmologists believe that the universe will continue to expand forever, and ultimately the total amount of free energy available will drop too low for any kind of life. This may take as long as 10 to the 100th power years, which is an incomprehensibly long time, at least for me. (See _The Future of the Universe_ in the March 1983 issue of Scientific American, and _Star Maker_ by Olaf Stapledon (1937)). ...Keith