Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!BARD From: BARD@MIT-XX.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest V10 #350 Message-ID: <3570@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sat, 7-Sep-85 03:37:18 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.3570 Posted: Sat Sep 7 03:37:18 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Sep-85 13:43:12 EDT Sender: daemon@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 36 From: Bard Bloom > >the other side. It can't be intended personally, for we are all of > >us honorable men. > > You obviously haven't seen the nasty mail messages I've occasionally > received. :-) > You studied some form of literature somewhat formally, no? Surely that quotation doesn't need to be :-)'ed. :-) > Those of you with long memories will recall > that my first posting on quality and fiction predated the whole > Davis Tucker series that seems to have upset so many people in this > group, and was a reaction to Steve Brust's claim that most good > writing today is issuing from the pens (word processors?) of SF > writers. Since then, I've seen great hostility on both sides of the > fence. So please don't mislead newcomers to this controversy by > claiming that the initial extremity was perpetrated by an "Art > Snob." My OWN first impressions were that the "Good-Read Snobs" > started it; c'mon, fight like a mensch. :-) > That did seem to be the start of the 1985 season on this network. It didn't seem too offensive to me; it wasn't like the antipersonal and antigroup attacks that followed it. I don't know who started flaming offensively first; but I imagine that the person who did didn't think she or he was flaming offensively. For you, it may have been Steve Brust. And I'm trying to fight like a penguin. Pax VAXque vobiscum, (with emphasis on the `Pax') Bard -------