Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Masculine vs Feminine netnews postings Message-ID: <1592@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 17:07:47 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1592 Posted: Sun Aug 25 17:07:47 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Aug-85 21:50:39 EDT References: <1528@utah-gr.UUCP> <1375@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 24 >> But in what way does this qualify as "masculine" >> except that you say so? > This has nothing to do with what _I_ say. It's what society says. > How do you know that the numeral "4" is pronounced "four" and not "five"? > Just because you say so? :-) [SILBERMANN] "4" is equivalent to "four" by the process of definition of numbers and words and such. As such it is non-ambivalent (within what Bertrand Russell expounded upon at length). On the other hand, masculine and feminine have definitions too, and those explicit definitions are "of or like or representative of a male/female" (as appropriate). (My dictionary uses the term "characteristic of or appropriate or peculiar to women" for feminine, and "having qualities appropriate to a man" for masculine !!!) Who is society to determine what is "appropriate" for or "peculiar to" a given gender? It's like saying that certain behavior among one gender/group or another is "unnatural"; if it happens, how can it be called "unnatural"? If a woman or a man engages in a certain behavior, how can it be called "inappropriate" or "not representative of" that person's gender. -- Popular consensus says that reality is based on popular consensus. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr