Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oddjob.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!oddjob!matt From: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: living alone Message-ID: <953@oddjob.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: oddjob.953 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Aug-85 09:02:18 EDT References: <1296@hound.UUCP> <5290001@acf4.UUCP> <140@unc.unc.UUCP> <256@gymble.UUCP> <1828@reed.UUCP> <1092@lumiere.UUCP> <1134@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Reply-To: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Organization: U. Chicago, Astronomy & Astrophysics Lines: 71 [The following rambles a bit but I have already trimmed it 40%, so the remainder might just possibly be readable...] I would like to add my own 2-1/2 bits worth to the group living/solo living story. I lived for 4.5 years in a collective household of seven to eight people. The group originally formed in 1976 (4 years before I joined) as a merger of two smaller collectives, both with active socialist political leanings. When I joined none of the founders still lived there and the politics was somewhat diluted, but the organization of the house reflected their outlook a little. (Example: monthly house meetings with a "crit/self crit/praise/self praise" section.) The system was organized a bit more tightly than households which some others have described here. We bought food and other essentials together. A good or bad shopping job could earn a person cheers or jeers for the coming week. There were assigned chores and a few other rules, but our principle was that "a structured kitchen allows anarchy in the living room", meaning that the rules only are made to take care of things that everyone has to rely on and that restrictions are not to be imposed on other aspects of life. Everyone was always eager to have each other's friends come over for dinner or parties or weekends. (I think variety may have been a factor in the roommate selection process.) Large get-togethers worked well there because of the enormous common areas, yet privacy was also easy to have because the rooms were isolated (and the walls were thick). There were some roommates who just plain didn't work out for one reason or another. The stories were passed down from year to year and always told to new prospective roommates in an effort to avoid repetition of mistakes or misunderstandings. Of course problems would arise from time to time (3 times in my 4.5 years, I think), problems which seemed to have no solution unless one person left the house. The onset of such a situation usually followed a pattern. First several individuals would think that they each were the only one who could no longer get along with X. Then they would begin to talk to each other and find that they were not alone in their feeling. During all this time attempts to communicate with the offending X would meet with no positive response: things reach this serious stage when the minority does not realize or admit that a problem exists. (When it's the majority that is oblivious or unwilling to change, the minority just leaves.) The final stage is a massed group confrontation at which all cards are laid on the table the problem is resolved, sometimes by the departure of X. Eventually it became my time to depart, not through a crisis scenario such as the above but because things started changing (I would say deteriorating) beyond what I was willing to adapt to. I had been there the longest of anybody and I didn't like some of the changes that were happening. The one smoker was leaving full ashtrays in the living room, almost all the meals became vegetarian, dishes were often not washed or were returned to the wrong place and more and more chores were being skipped. Nobody but me appeared to mind all of this, so the answer was clear. Besides, I was good and ready for a change after so much time in one life-style! Now I live by myself, and although it is not so entertaining I can always find the grater, the waffle iron is always clean, and if I don't leave a mess then nobody does. _____________________________________________________ Matt University crawford@anl-mcs.arpa Crawford of Chicago ihnp4!oddjob!matt