Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!purtell From: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Living alone Message-ID: <1871@reed.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 14:26:00 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1871 Posted: Wed Sep 4 14:26:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 10:00:46 EDT References: <1296@hound.UUCP> <5290001@acf4.UUCP> Reply-To: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 39 Summary: In article <253@whuts.UUCP> amc@whuts.UUCP (Andy Cohill) writes: >Love is a fundamentally irrational *attachment* to another person. > >Commitment (to paraphrase someone else) (Elizabeth?) is a decision >to do whatever it takes to stay together. > >And I think that it is possible, in a sad kind of way, to love >someone without making a commitment. > I don't think that doing whatever it takes to stay together is the ultimate definition of commitment. I think that it's one kind of commitment, but not the only kind. I love my friends and am committed to them in that I would do anything that I could for them. But I don't think it necessary to be around them for the rest of my life. Commitment to an SO can be anything from what I described above to not dating other people, to spending the rest of your lives together. The relationship that I try to have with my SOs is that they are friends who I tend to give special treatment to. (I'm more apt to buy them things, call them up, take them to dinner, and then of course there's sex, but that's a completely different subject altogether.) But I'm not very good at monogomy, so I don't commit myself to dating just one person. I start feeling restricted and it just doesn't work out well. Maybe someday, but not now. But that doesn't mean that I don't know what commitment is, or that I'm not committed to anyone. To me, committing yourself to someone doesn't mean that you have to be "only theirs" or whatever. It means, for me, being their friend, being there when they need you, etc. I would do lots of things for friends that I haven't seen for years, so it's not a "only there when it's easy to be" type of thing either. I'm not all that sure that it's really possible to love someone without feeling some commitment to them. With me, one always seemed to naturally follow the other. cheers - elizabeth g. purtell (Lady Godiva)