Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!fuji From: fuji@ssc-vax.UUCP (Glen T Fujimori) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: _Cheers_ and relationships Message-ID: <175@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 19:57:35 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.175 Posted: Thu Sep 5 19:57:35 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Sep-85 00:39:44 EDT References: <162@ssc-vax.UUCP> <1567@peora.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 62 Xref: tektronix net.singles:09578 >Now, remember, I don't mean the above as antagonistic... I do agree that it >is an interesting program, and I do wonder if Diane married Frasier or not >I never did see the resolution to that show, if there was one). No offense taken, I am always interested in other viewpoints as long as proselytizing is not involved...actually, It'd be pretty *scary* if everyone agreed with everything I said (By the way, the resolution of the Diane-Fraser situation will be the season premiere this month). I guess I should have given reasons why I am such a 'devoted' fan of _Cheers_; your observations are well taken. As a matter of fact, some of the observations are precisely why I do like _Cheers_. The main reason I like _Cheers_ so much is that most of the time they paint situations that are realistic (typical) if you will...I like something I can relate to. Also, I enjoy humor which is not sophomoric and which does not have it's foundation based on ludicrous situations (I've never heard _Cheers_ referred to as an intelligent show). The intention of my posting was to point out the apparent incongruity involved in Sam and Diane's relationship and to ask the rhetorical question, "Why?". That is, why and how can a relationship like this go on? (and not just on _Cheers_ but in real life, too) It's puzzling to me and that's why I wanted to know what it is that people actually seek in their prospective SO's-to-be. Granted, their characters seem to embody qualities seen in more than one person, i.e. they seem to be almagams of certain types of people; but I think that is what the writers wanted (so people could identify with certain traits of the characters)..it is one of the reasons I think that the dialogue and situations are so realistic. There are some things about Diane I like and that I wouldn't mind such as her caring, compassion and devotion to her friends. Of course one trait I don't care much of (but the writers constantly emphasize) is her tendency to always over-analyze situations and to not be spontaneous. Sam is another story; I suppose alot of guys harbor secret desires to be a womanizer, i.e. to be able to have any woman he desired. I'm not saying that is what makes his character appealing to me; I just throw that out as an obvious obser- vation. The reason I like Sam's character is that often times he is naive to the point of absurdity when it comes to dealing with handling the in- tricacies of a serious relationship with (e.g. when he and Diane were going together). I can relate to this. Also, there have been situations in some of the shows where the "feeling out" process that usually accompanies the development of a serious relationship has been explored in a way that I also can relate to - Sam having second thoughts about making a "serious" commitment, Sam really loving Diane but not being able to say it, Sam & Diane not admitting their true feeling for one another because they have rationalized that their relationship will never work because of their differing backgrounds, etc. By the way, I vaguely recall seeing _Duck_Factory, (wasn't Jack Guilford the guy in those Cracker Jack commercials in that show?) but not enough to comment on it. Again, thanks for your comments... -- Glen Fujimori -------------------------------------------------------------- Boeing Aerospace Co, PO Box 3999, M/S 9F-41, Seattle, WA 98124 uucp: ihnp4!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!fuji (206) 251-0197 ______________________________________________________________