Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site oakhill.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!vecpyr!lll-crg!mordor!ut-sally!oakhill!hunter From: hunter@oakhill.UUCP (Hunter Scales) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Living Alone: Abnormal? Message-ID: <517@oakhill.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 22:52:42 EDT Article-I.D.: oakhill.517 Posted: Thu Sep 5 22:52:42 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Sep-85 08:30:25 EDT References: <1296@hound.UUCP> <5290001@acf4.UUCP> Reply-To: hunter@oakhill.UUCP (Hunter Scales) Organization: Motorola Inc. Austin, Tx Lines: 88 In article <1867@reed.UUCP> purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) writes: >In article <248@whuts.UUCP> amc@whuts.UUCP (Andy Cohill) writes: >>> Andy Cohill: >>> > >I have a better word: irresponsibility. For more closeness you get >>> > >less irresponsibility. It gets confused with "freedom" very >>> > >frequently. >>> >>> Elizabeth Purtell: >>> > Boy, I'm glad that I read this on a day when I happened to be in >>> > fantastic mood, Andy, otherwise this probably would have made me angry. > > [I can't remember who posted this:] > >>> Well, I was in a pretty decent mood, but it ticked me off considerably. >>> Also the part about how living alone makes you self-indulgent and >>> intolerant. >[Andy:] >>Oh, brother....I was stating a g*d-d*mned opinion. I did not hold a >>gun to anybody's head and claim you had to do things my way. >> >>That is silly. I don't give a flying leap what you do with your >>life. There seems to be some sort of knee-jerk reaction here; if >>you post something at variance to the prevailing opinion, you get >>flamed instantly. > > First of all, I don't think that you stated what you did as an >opinion. If what you meant was "I think that living alone can make you >more intolerant and less responsible" that's one thing, but what you said >was that being single did not give freedom but irresponsibility, >implying that those of us who live alone and like it that way are more >irresponsible than those who don't. > Second - I didn't flame you. All I said was that I didn't think >that living alone made you irresponsible and that you could be married >and still be very irresponsible. You are quite welcome to state your >opinion, but if you don't state it in such a way that it comes across >that way you can expect to tick people off a little. That's just the way >the net works. You have to be very careful of your wording since facial >expressions and voice inflections don't carry well this way. But believe >me Andy, if you meant it as an opinion, then that's fine with me. You >can hold any opinion you want and I won't flame you, in fact I have good >friends who hold vastly different opinions from me in many areas, but in >return I expect you to respect my lifestyle and not assume that I'm >"irresponsible" or "intolerant" because my lifestyle differs from yours. > > cheers - > > elizabeth g. purtell > > (Lady Godiva) > Whew !!!! This discussion is getting out of hand (but see my next posting for a discussion of that subject). The original subject was whether or not wanting to live alone should be considered abnormal. Andy expressed the opnion (stated as fact) that people living alone became "self-indulgent" and intolerant. Elizabeth then replied, somewhat abrasively, that she didn't agree. She then launched into a lecture on net etiquette etc. First, I have to agree with Andy. From personal experience, I have found that people (male or female) who live alone *do* tend to "become set in their ways". In fact, most become very used to doing what they want when they want and come to expect to be able to do this *even when not at home*. I have lived alone, with male roommates, with female roommates (I believe the term used here is SO), with my wife (at the time) and now alone again (*not* naturally). I find that when I live alone I *do* tend to allow myself to become self-indulgent and intolerant of any modification to my schedule and/or wants. Not surprisingly, I dont notice this when I am alone, only when my SO stays over or I stay at her house. I also find this to be true of most of the people I know who live alone. Second, I think it should be obvious that anyone that says something like "people who live alone become intolerant" is stating an opnion. After all, a fact is a provable statement and any example to the contrary negates its validity. So almost everything said in this group is opinion and should be taken as such. Third, I dont understand why there seems to be so much hostility (and not just in this group, either). Why is everyone so quick to attack even when they are not threatened? Is the economy *that* bad ;-). What are your opnions on *this* subject? Bye for now. -- Motorola Semiconductor Inc. Hunter Scales Austin, Texas {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax,gatech}!ut-sally!oakhill!hunter (I am responsible for me and my dog and no-one else)