Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lasspvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!hoxna!houxm!vax135!cornell!lasspvax!norman From: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Imagine a non-sexist society... Message-ID: <484@lasspvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 14:05:10 EDT Article-I.D.: lasspvax.484 Posted: Sun Aug 25 14:05:10 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 06:14:31 EDT References: <931@oddjob.UUCP> <235@whuts.UUCP> Reply-To: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Distribution: net Organization: LASSP, Cornell University Lines: 43 In article <235@whuts.UUCP> amc@whuts.UUCP (Andy Cohill) writes: >> A couple months ago I posted an article asking people to suggest what >> sorts of qualities they imagined a non-sexist society to have. > >BORING!!!! > >Unless the gene-splicers come up with a way of making us >androgynous, the idea is flatly impossible. Equal rights for women >(and men) is not the same as trying to erase all differences between >the sexes. I think that many people are confused about this. I am >not. I support equal *rights* whole-heartedly. The idea of a >non-sexist society is absurd. The most interesting women I know are >those that are not trying to deny their femininity, yet refuse to >take any sh*t from men. > >Someone will probably point out that I find them interesting because >they meet my expectations about women--there, I've saved you the >trouble of posting it. > >Best regards, >Andy Cohill >{allegra|ihnp4}houxm!whuxl!whuts!amc Andy, I think you miss the boat. Sexual equality is not the same as sexual uniformity. Speaking to thoughts on nonsexist societies, I think the reason David's not received any replies is that it takes an awful lot of work to come up with a reasonably self-consistent society different from our own. I haven't any ideas of my own worth mentioning, but I've rerad a number of novels set in nonsexist societies (all science fiction, which is the only genre I know of which lends itself to societies not our own). I'll try to cobble together a short bibliography, if anyone is interested. If you're dying to try something right away I would suggest _Startide_Rising_, by David Brin. -- Norman Ramsey ARPA: norman@lasspvax -- or -- norman%lasspvax@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu UUCP: {ihnp4,allegra,...}!cornell!lasspvax!norman BITNET: (in desperation only) ZSYJARTJ at CORNELLA US Mail: Dept Physics, Clark Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York 14853 Telephone: (607)-256-3944 (work) (607)-272-7750 (home)