Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site osiris.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!osiris!jcp From: jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Name-changing and "identity" Message-ID: <510@osiris.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 09:17:36 EDT Article-I.D.: osiris.510 Posted: Tue Sep 3 09:17:36 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 07:00:57 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Johns Hopkins Hospital Lines: 26 It's all very well for a man, who will never be called upon to change *his* name, to think it foolish for women to protest having to change theirs. One's inner identity is not dependent upon one's name, but one's credit rating, professional reputation, etc., most certainly is. When I got married, I owned property in my name, had credit cards and a credit rating, and a professional reputation based on that name. Ask any man, those things *are* important. Appealing to tradition won't cut it. If we were depending on "tradition", why, then I wouldn't own property, have credit cards or a profession at all ! It is also historically true that a woman takes a man's name as a sign of becoming his property - in effect, her virginity ceases to be the property of her father and is given over to her husband. That is why the father "gives" the bride away at the wedding (another tradition I didn't go along with !). This is well-documented in historical analysis. If we are trying to dispense with "traditional" views of women as weak-minded, helpless children, or as sex and baby-making machines for the dominant males, then we should dispense with the "traditions" that subtly reinforce those views. As they say, men of quality are not threatened by women for equality. -- jcpatilla "The bland leadeth the bland and they both shall fall into the kitsch."