Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpg.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihlpg!tan From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography Message-ID: <1186@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 17:56:57 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.1186 Posted: Wed Sep 4 17:56:57 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Sep-85 05:47:40 EDT References: <369@scirtp.UUCP> <1870@reed.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 19 > [Ellen Eades, in an argument against tolerating pornography] > And finally, a personal response, which should not be discounted > for its subjectivity. Were I to find that an otherwise kind, > intelligent, sensitive male of my acquaintance read pornography > or watched pornographic films, my immediate response, as a woman > and a person of color, is to wonder whether he sees my face on > those trussed-up, whipscarred, burned, mutilated, impaled, > spermsmeared bodies; whether he would like to see me tied up and > whipped and burned; and most of all, whether he believes, in his > deepest convictions, that I would enjoy it when he beats me to > death. And I would be terribly, terribly angry, and afraid, and > ashamed, for him. ----- Much (perhaps most?) pornography does not depict torture, mutilation, or rape, but non-violent behavior of consenting adults. Your remarks are understandable and valid as far as they go, but only against that subset of pornography depicting such acts. Your posting fails to make the distinction. -- Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan