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From: jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Gender expectations
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Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 08:42:42 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep  5 08:42:42 1985
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>        If you described  man in the terms you just used as " too aggressive..
> too outspoken,too self assured  and too loud", you'd hear him called things
> other than "having lots of 'drive'", " a real go-getter","no bullshit kinda
> guy". The most frequent term used would be "BALL BUSTER" [non sexist pun
> intended], people descibed thusly do get ahead, mostly at others expense.
>     Dave Peak

	I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make. The point is
that *women* are expected to be meek, softspoken, non-aggressive, etc. By *not*
being so, I've been condemned for being "like a man" (guess I haven't been
keeping my place, eh ?). If I really *were* a man, my behavior would be accepted
as normal. It's not that I'm too aggressive, too outspoken, etc, FOR A *MAN*.
The problem lies in societal expectations of what is appropriate for male and
female behaviors.
	(Or maybe you just think I'm rude and obnoxious)

-- 
jcpatilla

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