Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!amdcad!linda From: linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Gender expectations Message-ID: <3665@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Sun, 8-Sep-85 18:08:20 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.3665 Posted: Sun Sep 8 18:08:20 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Sep-85 03:11:51 EDT References: <509@osiris.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AMDCAD, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 17 Summary: aggressiveness in women, maturity In article <509@osiris.UUCP>, jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) writes: > > Conversely, I've been shunned by some of those women who seem to > think that feminine equates with prissy, manipulative, deceitful and > backbiting. I get the feeling that because I say what I think, I therefore > "don't play fair". :-) I often think, though, that if I were a man, I'd > be seen as having lots of "drive", being a real "go-getter", a "no-bullshit" > kinda guy. I have never ever wanted to change my biological sex, however - > I suit me just fine, it's everyone else's attitudes that should change ! I thought that in the business world most people think that a person who is outspoken and "says what they think" is "immature" and that the manipulative types often come out looking like the nice guy. But this is different from aggressive mannerisms. Men are not financially penalized for having an aggressive manner, but women are.