Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpg.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihlpg!sed408 From: sed408@ihlpg.UUCP (s. dugan) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography Message-ID: <1204@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Sep-85 11:04:21 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.1204 Posted: Mon Sep 9 11:04:21 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Sep-85 04:21:29 EDT References: <369@scirtp.UUCP> <1870@reed.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 49 > > And finally, a personal response, which should not be discounted > for its subjectivity. Were I to find that an otherwise kind, > intelligent, sensitive male of my acquaintance read pornography > or watched pornographic films, my immediate response, as a woman > and a person of color, is to wonder whether he sees my face on > those trussed-up, whipscarred, burned, mutilated, impaled, > spermsmeared bodies; whether he would like to see me tied up and > whipped and burned; and most of all, whether he believes, in his > deepest convictions, that I would enjoy it when he beats me to > death. And I would be terribly, terribly angry, and afraid, and > ashamed, for him. > > Ellen Eades > It seems to me that you know very little about "pornography." There are a wide range of degrees of hard and soft porn. Some are pretty tame (PLAYBOY) and some are way off on the fring (child-porn and human-animal sex). Before you dismiss it ALL as being abusive to women, I think you better educate yourself a little bit. My dictionary defines pornography as that which is obscene. I looked up obscene and found it defined as "causing or intended to cause sexual excitement or lust." Nowhere in that definition does it say anything about abusing/mutilating anyone. While I agree that there is a lot of porn that depicts things like that, not all of it does. I, personally, have seen quite a few books and movies that simply depict one, two or more adults enjoying sex. There have been a lot of them that showed some rather odd, sensual acrobatic acts that were far from abusive. I, for one, am not afraid to say that I enjoyed them and (in the right company) found them rather stimulating and exciting. I'm sorry if that offends you. Maybe if you tried to open your mind a little bit, you wouldn't respond so rabidly to things which you don't understand. Go ahead. Flame at will. -- Sarah E. Dugan "Easy Does It, But *DO* It" ########################################################################### # AT&T Bell Labs IH 1D-408 The Forest (home) # # Naperville-Wheaton Rd. 1353 Crab Apple Court Apt. 101 # # Naperville, Illinois 60566 Naperville, Illinois 60540 # # (312) 979 - 5545 (312) 355 - 0445 # ###########################################################################