Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site wateng.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!wateng!jamcmullan From: jamcmullan@wateng.UUCP (Judy McMullan) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Name Changes ("traditions that have evolved" disappearing) Message-ID: <2803@wateng.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 12:36:50 EDT Article-I.D.: wateng.2803 Posted: Wed Sep 11 12:36:50 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 00:25:07 EDT References: <5211@elsie.UUCP> <11302@rochester.UUCP> <508@osiris.UUCP> <11313@rochester.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 25 >Why doesn't the preacher say "and now the bride may kiss the groom? >Why is there no flower boy following the groom? >Why is there no shower for the man, instead of a party that wrecks his brain >for weeks? You are living in the past. The preacher does not say that the groom may kiss the bride, in modern marriages between equals. Neither the bride nor the groom wants such a thing said. There are often young boys included in ceremonies (actually they have been for many years -- as ring-bearers, so their "masculinity" is not "compromised") and everyone thinks they are just as cute as the little girls. A lot of "bridal" showers now include both the bride and the groom and the people invited include men as well as women. I have had and/or attended several very successful showers over the last few years which were really more gift-giving followed by a social evening with friends of both sexes. Lastly, the "stag" for the groom is often being omitted (because he was at the shower) or replaced by his being taken out to lunch or dinner. Wake up -- you are living in a changing world. --from the sssstickkky keyboard of JAM ...!{ihnp4|clyde|decvax}!watmath!jamcmullan