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From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography
Message-ID: <634@ucsfcgl.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 03:33:44 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep 12 03:33:44 1985
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In article <1775@psuvax1.UUCP> berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) writes:
>>  Were I to find that an otherwise kind,
>> intelligent, sensitive male of my acquaintance read pornography
>> or watched pornographic films...
>> 
>> Ellen Eades
>> 
>  It is a jungle out there, Ellen.  It may well be that ALL otherwise
>kind, intelligent, sensitive etc. males in this country (and many
>others) both read pornography and seen porno films.

This is certainly false.  Although it is rather immodest, I would
protest that I am kind, intelligent, sensitive, etc., and I am
certainly male, and I do not read or watch pornography.  Some kinds of
erotica, yes.  Of course, I have no idea if what I do view would be
considered pornographic by Ellen.

>  I read complains about the look of women in Playboy.  In my local
>K-Mart there is a large section of romance novels.  Guess how do
>women look there?  Always in arms of powerfully looking men, thrilled
>with inexplicable passion, obviously ready to a passionate intercourse
>(those covers are not sexist however, men look equally idiotic).
>The view of hundreds of such covers could convince someone gullible
>that the main reason in life is finding a sexual partner with ever
>desired characterictics of All-American-Man (or All-American-Woman).  
>God forbid any individual features!

This is not sexist?  Sounds horribly sexist to me.  Making women look
like helpless fools, and men look like idiotic muscle machines whose
job is to protect them only perpetuates sexist streotypes.  Just making
sure that both men AND women look like cardboard cutouts does *not*
make something *not* sexist.

		Ken Arnold