Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pegasus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pegasus!avi From: avi@pegasus.UUCP (Avi E. Gross) Newsgroups: net.legal,net.women Subject: Re: Name Changes (mine was free!) Message-ID: <2580@pegasus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: pegasus.2580 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 04:29:43 EDT References: <139@rruxa.UUCP> <10060@ucbvax.ARPA> <1515@peora.UUCP> <5648@tektronix.UUCP> <678@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> <1081@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Reply-To: avi@pegasus.UUCP (60545451-Avi E. Gross;LZ 3C-314;6241) Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Lincroft NJ Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.legal:2327 net.women:7396 Summary: It was part of my citizenship ritual Many years ago, when I stepped in front of a judge to become a citizen of the US, I asked him to change my first name to Avi. There was no charge. He just issued my papers with the new name. Interestingly enough, that piece of paper is the only legal piece of identification I have (other than things like passports that were issued when I used my citizenship papers for ID). There does not exist any piece of paper that says that "Emeric Gross" changed his name to "Avi Emeric Gross"! When my parents left Romania, they were not allowed to take extraneous papers with them -- minor things like marriage licenses or birth certificates. I was listed as a write-in on my fathers passport consisting of my name and birth-date. This was traded in for a "green-card" a year later when we arrived here. I actually changed my name "by usage" in school. Every year I crossed out "Emeric" and replaced it with "Avi" on my report card. Starting in the sixth grade, the school silently capitulated in this passive battle and started using Avi. If my daughter ever wants to change her name when she is older, I would be willing to help her. Why should we be stuck with names chosen for us? I don't identify with my Romanian name since I was never called by that name anyway. It was given to me because the law mandated giving such names in another country. Of course, if I had to choose a name again today, I would probably choose a more "American" name than Avi :-) -- -=> Avi E. Gross @ AT&T Information Systems Laboratories (201) 576-6241 UUCP: suggested paths: [ihnp4, allegra, cbosg, ahuta, ...]!pegasus!avi ARPA: agross@ru-green