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From: ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood and Abstinence
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Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 13:55:36 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 16 13:55:36 1985
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> There's been a certain amount of talk in this newsgroup
> about whether Planned Parenthood presents sexual abstinence as
> an option.  I can prove that at least one PP chapter does:  the
> following quotation is from a pamphlet, "She Will Always Remember You", 
> copyright 1970 by Planned Parenthood of Colorado.
>  
>    "Any honest, responsible relationship that includes sex also
>     includes contraception, and this means that both of you go
>     to a physician or clinic for medically supervised assistance.
>     If she's too embarrassed, too shy, too insecure to get
>     contraceptive help, you have only one honest choice.  You wait or you
>     get another girl.  If you're the one who's too embarrassed
>     (you don't really know her well enough to discuss it?) why
>     don't you just wait a few years until you grow up."
>  
>    "But don't talk to her about love, honesty, or personal freedom.
>     Without a decision on contraception, that kind of talk is a 
>     coward's lie."
>  
> Amen.
> -- 
> Elizabeth Hanes Perry                        
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> "Ooh, ick!" -- Penfold

I simply do not find any counseling here concerning abstinence on the usual 
grounds relating to moral or ethical values, especially those that may have
been discussed in the home.  I also do not find any discussion in the area
of inner conflict as a result of mixed emotions about whether it is at all
wise for any person of any age to be engaged in pre-marital sex.  The only
discussion here is whether or not one happens to be too embarrassed or shy to
ask a clerk at a drug store for contraceptives.  This is very common even 
among adults I have known.  If drug stores sold or doctors offices sold marital
aids, such as Doc Johnson's Joy Jelly, I do believe even mature adults would
be somewhat hesitant to inquire about it or purchase those products.  If this
were the case, would PP suggest that these adults were somewhat immature and
should wait a few years?  
 
I still consider PP as an interfering outside organization that can have
the effect of undermining established social values through strict adherance
to a set of alternative values established by the proponents of PP.  
If I wanted to be a counselor at PP, do you not believe I would have to be
predisposed to supporting the doctrines of PP?  Would I be aloud to counsel
on my terms instead of PP's?  I doubt it.


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