Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site kestrel.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!kestrel!king From: king@kestrel.ARPA Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: ancients predict usenet Message-ID: <1432@kestrel.ARPA> Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 01:00:27 EDT Article-I.D.: kestrel.1432 Posted: Mon Sep 30 01:00:27 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 2-Oct-85 21:06:58 EDT References: <811@gitpyr.UUCP> <1288@kestrel.ARPA> <1739@brl-tgr.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 35 Summary: I'm well aware what fetuses look like In article <1739@brl-tgr.ARPA>, matt@brl-tgr.ARPA (Matthew Rosenblatt ) writes: > > (Of course, you need a special lens on your camera to show a > > twelve week fetus - that must be why they didn't do it :-) )[DICK KING] > > How big does Mr. King think a twelve week fetus is? > > -- Matt Rosenblatt A few hundred grams or so. My point was that it was downright deceptive for SS to show 20-25 week fetuses while the voiceover was saying "... the coroner reports that the average age of the fetuses was twelve weeks ..." You don't need a special lens to photograph a 12 wk fetus, but it wouldn't make a very impressive show. I would guess that no feature that an embryologist could use to distinguish a human 12 wk fetus from that of another primate at a comparable stage of development would be visible in a TV picture taken with ordinary equipment. Has anyone asked themselves what kind of woman would have her abortion done under an ultrasound imager for the purpose of making an antiabortion film? Or did the do0ctor who made the film pull something out of his files? Did he routinely use ultrasound imaging when he performed abortions? Does he routinely televise his patients' private medical records? It wouldn't astound me if it came out someday that the SS ultrasound videotape was done on a monkey. (I am not, however making any such claim.) Certainly antiabortion activists aren't having themselves aborted to make such films :-) ! (Maybe it's a computer simulation - the state of the art is almost certainly good enough.) -dick Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com