Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mit-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!mit-vax!csdf From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Why is it? Message-ID: <912@mit-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 02:48:07 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-vax.912 Posted: Thu Oct 3 02:48:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Oct-85 05:38:17 EDT References: <239@tekig5.UUCP> <862@mit-vax.UUCP> <321@cylixd.UUCP> Reply-To: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) Distribution: net Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 46 >>>where are the female counterparts >>>of the Pauls, Garys, and Mikes?? [David Hayes] >> >>They're at home, barefoot and (or course) pregnant. I don't think they'd >>be allowed to use a computer if they knew how. [Charles Forsythe] > >Charles, where's the smiley face? > >If you were serious (and I hope you weren't), that remark is bigoted and >offensive. You owe a lot of women an apology. [Charli Phillips] Sorry Charli (I've always wanted to use that line on someone else!), no smiley face. Do you think I am saying that there are no intelligent, indepedant pro-life women in the world? I hope you don't think that because I am not that naive or bigoted. Maybe you haven't read anything by the really hard-core pro-life guys on the net. As for me, I am surprised I haven't read the term "little woman" and "housewife" from them. Perhaps you should read Matt Rosenblatt's famous "women have rights because male politicians let them have rights" speech that generated megabytes of flamage about a month ago. Matt's more recent submission is from a feminist who talks about how birth control (and therefore abortion) are mens' way of keeping women sexually submissive. Of course, he misses a more realistic point that our society also makes women slaves to childcare. This summer I helped a friend raise money for a feminist organization called "9 to 5" that fights for the rights of women office workers. One of their main battles is to get companies to provide childcare for working mothers. Perhaps Ken Arndt will reappear to explain how DEC's money is better spent on Usenet connections than childcare services. At any rate, the female counterparts to these attitudes must ALSO believe that a woman ought to be at home with the kids -- so that is where you will find them. -- Charles Forsythe CSDF@MIT-VAX "Ordinary F___ing people -- I hate 'em. Ordinary people spend their lives avoiding tense situations; repo man spends his life getting into tense situations." Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com