Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!bbnccv!inmet!bcbell From: bcbell@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: The '68 through '72 Corvettes Message-ID: <57500012@inmet.UUCP> Date: Tue, 1-Oct-85 20:09:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.57500012 Posted: Tue Oct 1 20:09:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Oct-85 07:46:30 EDT References: <1061@hou2h.UUCP> Lines: 179 Nf-ID: #R:hou2h:-106100:inmet:57500012:000:9605 Nf-From: inmet!bcbell Oct 1 20:09:00 1985 ** What's my line ** Ah, to talk about my favorite subject... First, let me answer your questions as you presented them. 1. The only major difference between these model years occured between '68 and '69 when the "new" engines were used. There are a number of minor changes to the door handles, the side vent panels, and the interior trim. Also note that engine horsepower decreased with each model year. This was a result of both a different, more realistic method of measuring power, and of gradual detuning to meet tougher emissions requirements. 2. '68s had all sorts of problems. This was the year of introduction for this car and as is typical of products made by the General, it was not fully shaken out yet. If you're looking for as few headaches as possible, I'd reccommend looking at the later years of the style. Parenthetically, this is sound advice for any make of car. There are a number of problems which all of these cars share. I'll get to those a little later. 3. The tops are very easy to operate. The convertible unlatches from the front and folds down into the storage compartment behind the seats. Forget about carrying anything in the car when the top is down- the storage space is all taken up by the top. T-tops unlatch from the side and lift off. There's no real good place to put them once they're off, but they will fit behind the seats. If you put them there, you should use protective bags to keep them from getting dinged up. Coupes also have a removable rear window which stores in a compartment in the rear. 4. Comfort is relative, and in a vette, the seats are the least of your problems. The seat backs do not adjust for angle, but you can adjust them on a limited (and permanent) basis with seat spacers. All told, the seats are not bad. Remember, this is an American car, though. 5. With its fat tires, plastic body over ladder frame, dual pipe V-8 sitting in your lap, and posi differential just behinf your head, it is anything but quiet. Never waste money on a radio for a vette, you won't be able to hear it anyway. 6. How it feels the first time you drive one depends a lot on what your driving experiences have been to date. I had owned and driven a number of cars, mostly imports, mostly "sporty", before driving a Corvette, so that had a lot of bearing on my experience. The first thing you notice is that you have to sit way down to get inside. Once in, you become overwhelmed by how low and small it is. There isn't a whole lot of room inside, so you feel like you're sort of wearing it instead of just sitting in it. You look out of a surprisingly low windshield over a very long, mean-looking hood, framed by the high front fenders. It's like looking down a tunnel. You can't see the front of the car at all (making parking a matter of much experience) which adds to the impression that you've just strapped in to some kind of a fighter plane. Rear visability is terrible. You can see directly out the rear window but side/rear visability is nonexistant. When you start up the engine, the car rocks to one side from the torque. The sensation is repeated each time you stab the accelerator. The low, slow note of the engine can only come from a big V-8 breathing through dual pipes. Unless you're a truck driver, it takes some time to get used to how much force it takes to press in the clutch, even on the mildest engines. The shifter is equally amazing. It feels like you have to push it about a foot to get it from neutral to first. Pulling out, you realize the tremendous amounts of power available under your foot. Touch the pedal and the car lunges foward, pinning you to the seat. After you get used to it a little , it's amazing just how easy it is to go very, very fast. 110 feels just as stable as 55. And there's much more than that available if you want it... O.K., enough of the glowing testimonials. Back to reality. You can't drive one until you own one, and buying it isn't as easy as it might seem, particularly if you intend to bring it to some semblance of its original condition. The first things you need to buy one are some books, specifically: The Corvette Black book Vette Vues Fact Book, '68-'72 The Chevrolet Corvette Parts Catalog Corvettes in or near original condition are worth a reasonable amount of money. Ones that have been screwed with are worth lots less. There are some major components which should be original, like the engine, transmission, and paint. The Black Book will tell you how to be sure these are the original items. There are a number of trim or interior parts which may have been customized, too. Individually they usually aren't much of a problem, but if the previous owner(s) liked to customize, replacing them can add up to a lot. Use the Fact Book to check out what the originals are supposed to be like. Use the parts catalog to find out how much replacement parts will cost, if they're still available. For example, the tach doesn't work in my '71. I didn't think it would be such a big deal to fix when I bought it, but the tach drive gears I need cost over $100. At least they're still available. The car was also missing its seat belts (and I always use seat belts, but that's another hot net.auto topic) and they're not available from Chevrolet. They will cost many hundreds of dollars when and if I can locate some on the used market. Some other things to look out for. Don't buy a car that has had extensive body work. Look out for frame rot if the car is from the rust belt. All vette frames rust out at the point where the frame starts to bend up over the rear wheels. If the rear wheels look like they bend in at the top, the posi is shot and has been over adjusted. Original vette brakes decompose badly. Most people replace the original calipers with ones with stainless inserts in the piston bores (this is where the rot out). New calipers cost about $200 each, so check the brakes carefully. Vette radiators are wicked expensive so make sure it's not full of holes. There are probably dozens more points that I can't think of off hand, but those are the major ones. Oh, don't worry too much if the engine burns a lot of oil, as long as it develops reasonable power. All small block Chevys wear out their valve guides in a big hurry and thus blow a lot of oil. If someone tells you that the engine has been rebuilt, try to find out how much the rebuild cost. If it was much less than $1500, chances are they knurled the valve guides instead of sleeving them, and the thing will start blowing oil in a few thousand miles anyway. Try to find an enthusiast to check out a car you are interested in. If you don't know of any you might want to try your local Chevy dealership. Chances are real good at least one vette lover works there. Now the bad news. I always feel obligated to tell people the bad stuff about owning a corvette, but if it begins to dampen your enthusiasm, promise me you'll just stop reading. Corvettes of this vintage don't like the rain. They handle poorly in the rain. Their wide tires hydroplane easily and they're quite skittish. They also leak like sieves. Anyone who tells you that his vette doesn't leak is part fish. Don't even think about driving in the snow. You will gain a number of new friends once you've got a Corvette in your driveway. They are your insurance agent, your Chevrolet dealership, and your local gas station. Your local police will not be your new buddies, but they will keep a much closer eye on you. More corvettes are stolen than any other car. Your insurance will be outrageous. Get a good alarm, then drive your car directly into your garage and leave it there. With you in the front seat. It's very noisy inside. If you've got a big block, it will also be very hot. Don't try to carry anything. Whatever it is, it won't fit. Parts are expensive. Labor is expensive. Bodywork is expensive. Ask for a raise in pay. You will need a new right muffler once a year. Budget it. If anything ever goes wrong with the door that covers the wipers, consider the virtues of American engineering. This little baby has about 7000 moving parts. Whoever designed this should be banished to Italy, or England, where they really appreciate crazy engineering. You'll really notice a big difference in the way other drivers treat you. This has both its good and its bad points. People don't generally think of Corvette owners as nice people. If you come to an intersection where you must merge into traffic, turn around and take another route. No one will let you in. If you wave another driver on, to let them know they should go ahead of you, they won't believe you mean it. On the good side, if you are stopped at a light with other cars next to you, when the light turns green they will aleays wait for you to go first, no matter how long you take. This takes a certain amount of getting used to at first. Actually this doesn't always work. Every now and again there's some guy (usually in a BMW or Supra) who is either too young or too stupid to know not to go wheel to wheel with old fashioned American horsepower. They are usually quick learners, though. Well I've filled up a lot of pages here. I hope I've managed to give you some useful information on the subject. Now all you have to do is find the right one. And if you come across a set of '71 shoulder harnesses and retractors in saddle, a tach drive cross shaft gear, a washer reservoir, an emergency flasher switch ... R.M. Mottola Cyborg Corp. Newton, MA Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com