Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!clarke From: clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: red flag projecting into traffic Message-ID: <1445@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 13:55:16 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsri.1445 Posted: Mon Sep 30 13:55:16 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 30-Sep-85 14:23:02 EDT Distribution: net Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 32 I'm new to this newsgroup, so the question I raise may either have been brought up twice a year for the last five years or be considered beneath contempt by most readers. However, here goes: I use my bicycle mostly for short (1-3 km) commutes along pretty busy streets. Here in Toronto most motorists are fairly considerate, in my opinion, but once or twice in every ride someone will try to readjust my left ankle. Under a certain amount of pressure at home, partly because I used to ride daily with my 3-year-old on the back, I eventually bought one of those plastic waggly things with a red flag on the end that sticks out into the traffic. I didn't like to do it, because as a motorist I find them a little annoying ("I don't need that thing to tell me how much space to leave."), but to save my neck from the inconsiderate drivers I decided to risk annoying others. Problem: My impression, based on rather poor statistics so far, is that *more* drivers come too close with this flag than without. Sample event: I protest in my usual mild way, and get the answer (extensively edited) "I didn't hit you. I didn't even hit that thing [indicating the flag]. So what are you worried about?" The numbers are small, as I said, so I can't be sure. But the villain's reaction suggests a theory, namely that drivers are trying to just miss my flag, instead of leaving a sensible margin around my corporeal self. Weak theory plus weak numbers suggest the flag may be increasing the danger. Do others agree? Is there a standard net.bicycle opinion on this? (Please, if there is, mail it to me instead of posting it.) -- Jim Clarke -- Dept. of Computer Science, Univ. of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416) 978-4058 {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsri!clarke Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com