Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site winston.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!ubc-vision!winston!kovish From: kovish@winston.UUCP (Barrie Kovish) Newsgroups: net.bio Subject: Flying dinosaurs. Message-ID: <148@winston.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 14:28:13 EDT Article-I.D.: winston.148 Posted: Wed Oct 2 14:28:13 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Oct-85 07:10:54 EDT Organization: New Media Technologies, Burnaby, BC, CANADA Lines: 51 [] Here is a question and a proposal regarding "flying" reptiles in the mesozoic (?). First the proposal. I have seen parts of a debate as to weather some of the larger reptiles could fly or were only gliders. Most of the arguments seem to assume that the reptiles either were carion eaters or ate fish. Both of these seem some what unlikely if the organisms were only week gliders. My suspicions are that these organisms could fly much better than we think. However there is another possibility albeit somewhat bizzare. Maybe these large flying reptiles were filter feeding plankton eaters! I am using the word plankton to indicate small airborn organisms probably insects. I suspect there is good anatomical reasons not to believe this, however fossil remains are typically far from complete. There are several reasons to believe this proposal is possible. 1. There are known examples of avian plankton eaters today. The frogmouths (birds) which attract insects into their mouths by pheromones. 2. There certainly no shortage of marine plankton eaters. They are all slow swimmers. Hence by symetry an airial plankton eater should be a week flier. 3. A plankton eater would not have to land very often. Possibly only to breed. There are I beleive some species of marine birds which stay aloft for years at a time. 4. Reptiles require less energy per unit mass. Hence a lower density of insects is needed to support a reptilian plankton eater than an avian one. 5. Point 4 again only gliders require less energy than fliers. Hence even a lower density of energy is required. 6. Insect eating is certainly one of the main preoccupations of modern fliers such as Bats, Birds and Insects. So now the question. If the above is not true who was eating all the flying insects I suspect were quite abundant in the mesosoic? Is there anyone out there with a good enough memory to comment? -- Barrie Kovish New Media Technologies ..decvax!microsoft!ubc-vision!winston!kovish ..ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!winston!kovish Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com