Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site SU-ISL.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!intelca!hplabs!pesnta!greipa!decwrl!Glacier!SU-ISL!brad From: brad@SU-ISL.ARPA Newsgroups: net.bizarre Subject: Re: more on lost positives Message-ID: <113@SU-ISL.ARPA> Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 14:17:55 EDT Article-I.D.: SU-ISL.113 Posted: Tue Sep 17 14:17:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 26-Sep-85 07:03:08 EDT References: <581@tellab1.UUCP> Reply-To: brad@SU-ISL.UUCP (Bradley Clymer) Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University Lines: 35 Keywords: lost, positives Summary: In article <581@tellab1.UUCP> barth@tellab3.UUCP (Barth Richards) writes: >In regards to the net discussion of "lost positives": > > [etc] > >But the point is that their ways would seem improper, and so "unknown" people, >especially "unfriendly, unkind, unknown" people and their ways were thought of >as uncultured as a result of ignorance. Hence the relationship: > > unknown----------------->uncultured. > >Interestingly enough, the word "couth" is in the Dictionary, with the >definition "sophisticated, polished." The really BIZARRE part is that this >word "couth" is a backformation from "uncouth" and appeared about 1896. >So a lost positive was reinstated in the language quite by accident, and is >now on the way out again. (I mean, how many of you out there in netland use >the word "couth" in daily conversation?) I remember when I was a sousaphone player in the marching band at Ohio State seeing a sign written by other band members demanding: 1) Some f***ing couth for the 'basses' [Sousaphone players] well, I thought that was kind of a bizarre choice of words. Given the reputation of the sousaphone section at the time, I was never sure whether that f-word was intended as a modifier or simply an expletive... ...now a semi-retired tuba player brad clymer Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com